Ghosts S4E15

Saturday, 8 March 2025 03:00 am
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-_-
It feels like there's nothing left to say that hasn't already been said before [Xmas special, E11]. However, I will say that Flower's interjections to unnecessarily explain a euphemism for having sex as "when two adults share a special hug" (twice with, I think, slightly different wording after the hug bit) to Sass, who is clear that he doesn't need the explanation, adds in a dash of infantilization to all this virgin joking. He's more than aware of what everyone means if someone says 'doing it'.

Flower even gets in a line about how [plot relevant mistake Alberta made] can't be worse than Sass being a virgin. I'd love for the writers to get a new joke. I'm kind of wary as to what may happen in the next episode as we deal with Chris, the stripper hired for the bachelorette party, dying on the property; for non-viewers, Chris had an 'It's Raining Men' package where he parachuted in, but something went wrong with his parachute opening in this jump, and he crashed through the roof of Jay's newly open restaurant. I'm not saying that I'm confident that Flower will act pushy about Sass having a new ghost to fix his virgin problem with, but I'm wary of that being thrown in.

Ghosts S4E11

Saturday, 15 February 2025 03:00 am
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Remember the virgin joke post? I had hoped that was going to be the end of this topic, but unfortunately, it wasn't.

My family got around to S4E11, which mostly is not about this issue. Thorfinn attends a therapy session to address the abandonment he still struggled with on the anniversary of him being left behind in the New World (and this episode is about him moving on, whatever), and the ending was a bunch of the rest of the ghosts chiming in within a group ghost therapy session.

Sass' contribution: I'm a virgin.

Sam has to pretend she's got all of their issues going on in order to voice them, so the therapist looks a bit confused as he answers: Aren't you married?

Sam: Yeah, isn't that weird?

...

I don't even know how to convey the internal sigh, glare, disappointment mashup going on. The therapist's disbelief that a married woman might be a virgin. The deflection as Sam tries to come up with a non-ghost answer that goes for how weird that idea is. It was one of the ending contributions, so it feels like the last bit of humor getting in at the very end of the episode. (So, more 'the funny thing to focus on is an adult virgin' going on.)

While virgin doesn't equal ace necessarily, it feels like this is a world that doesn't have any awareness of asexuality. Granted, there's a possibility that this may come up in future episodes, but currently, there haven't been any signs of awareness. I know this is a 30-minute comedy show once a week, and it's not trying to be a sweeping educational show here. Still, after spending some time on Isaac coming to terms with attitudes around homosexuality changing from his lifetime [1770s] and coming out, a part of me wishes that someone could nod to the ace community in some way.
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I was taking a quick glance through the New Year's Resolution 2025 prompts for Ghosts (US), and I must admit the idea of Jay being able to see the ghosts is tempting. I know what this past Xmas special included, which possibly post-dates the prompt, but a part of me wants to bust out some Fix-It on that episode.

A virgin joke. -_- How funny.Sasappis died before he had sex with anyone. He hasn't had any ghost sex. He's a 500 year old virgin! Cue the 'pathetic' comments and 'how does that even happen' and 'isn't that so sad' and an attempt to find someone in order to 'fix this'. The thing that was focused on as what really needed fixed was Sasappis and Thorfinn's friendship after Thorfinn felt compelled to reveal this secret, but I wish we could've spared a moment to address how Sasappis isn't sad/pathetic/needing fixed for his suddenly revealed virginity.
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I can't remember exactly how I found myself looking at the Ace Tropes series on The Asexual Agenda, but I kept a link for 'Ace Tropes: Cis-ace & Trans-allo' in a draft because I've got a WIP featuring this.

{Heads up: Yeah, I know that shit's gone past a tipping point regarding JKR's slide into TERF tweeting this summer. As a trans fan, I've seen other trans fans point out her Twitter sliding in that direction before 2020, but I've made the decision to keep going with writing HP fanfic. I appreciate leaving JKR out of any comments on this particular post.}

First, the Cis-ace & Trans-allo trope:
Many (though not all) of the stories which use the cis-ace/trans-allo trope contain problematic ace representation and/or problematic trans representation. For example, most of the cis-aces are presented as being completely flawless in how they handle trans issues, and the trans allos are usually presented as being just as flawless in handling asexuality.

In particular, the trans character will often allo savior the ace character and/or the ace character will cis savior the trans character [...] Sometimes the trans character even reads like a Magical Queer.

Also, the ace character will often have no contact with other aces, and the trans character will often have no contact with other trans people. The ace character not having contact with other aces can often be justified, but trans readers tend to find it implausible that a trans character would not know other trans people.
Some fic details. )

Expanding on the fic in relation to the trope. )

Some thoughts on how to fix stuff. )


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